Thursday, February 13, 2014

Night, Final Post (Chapts. 7-9)

Respond to one of the following in a minimum of four complete sentences:
  • What is the difference between being inhuman and inhumane? Would you characterize the Nazis as both, neither, or only one? Explain.
  • Describe the specific "human" qualities that the Nazis' victims lose over the course of their imprisonment. Give examples from the text.
Provide examples from the novel as support.
Be sure to respond to at least two of your classmates' posts with an intelligent and thoughtful comment or question.
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  1. Inhuman means lacking qualities of compassion and mercy. Not human in nature or character. Inhumane means without compassion for misery or suffering. Nazis are both inhuman and inhumane. They killed person after person without hesitation. They used babies as target practice. They watched people being burned alive and did nothing to stop it. What human being would do that? They had no empathy for the Jews, no guilt. They didn't bater an eyelash as they killed people. I just don't understand how or why someone would do that.

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    1. I agree with you that the Nazi's where very cruel and had little mercy and compassion for the Jew's.

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    2. I agree with this because the Germans overall were hostile and very aggressive toward all Jews.

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    3. I completely agree with you. It's very depressing and sad everything that the Jews had to go through. Being tortured, and starved to death every single day. And not having the power to do anything about it. It was cruel and there was no sympathy at all from the Nazis'. You have to have a sick and twisted mind to think and go through something like what all those Jews went through and sadly it did happen.

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    4. I agree that the German's treated the Jewish people inhumanely. They caused them great suffering and grief. The conditions that they faced were so horrendous that many of the Jews faced death. I believe inhumane conditions are any conditions that aren't socially acceptable in the modern world.

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    5. I agree the Nazis treated the Jews in the most inhumane ways

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    6. I agree, i don't see why in human-being would want to be like that.

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  2. There is really no difference between inhuman and inhumane, inhumane is a synonym for inhuman. Inhuman is being cruel, harsh, remorseless and uncaring. I would characterize them as either one, they were barbaric and brutal when it came to trying to annihilate the Jews. They were uncaring and wanted them gone.

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    1. I agree. The Nazis were very cruel to the Jews, but the Jews were also cruel to each other. The prisoners that held authority were cruel to the Jews they were in charge of. The Nazis were not always cruel, though, and neither were the Jews. At the end of the story, the Nazis encouraged the Jews by telling them that they were almost done with their journey.

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    2. That's a really good point Lisa the Nazi's where not the only ones to be cruel the Jews where also very cruel to each they would fight each to the death just to survive.

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    3. This is a really great point because not only were the Germans cruel, the Jews even turned on their own people for food and survival, but I guess its a natural reaction because when turkeys are starving and in a place together they become cannibals as well as other animals they do what they have to to survive the hardships in life .

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    4. great point lisa, that not only germans were cruel but other jews that had a commanding spot above each other will beat the other jews just because they could.

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  3. The Nazis' victims lose their mercy. An old man's son was willing to kill him for bread. They also lose their honesty. Elie lies to Rabbi Eliahou about not seeing his son. They are no longer loyal, either. Rabbi Eliahou's son left him so that he wouldn't be carrying around dead weight.

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    1. I agree, that their victims lose mercy for each other.

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    2. You made a good point the Jews, even in the situation they where in did nothing to help each other. Many of them could have continued to live had others given him courage. Many people wanted others to die so that they might have a better chance to survive, only to wish more were still living to better their chances at the selections.

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    3. I completely agree with you Lisa. I would not have thought of that until you brought it up. The Nazis' did torture, and starve them to death. But, it was also other Jews that were killing each other as well. In my opinion I think they done it because they were trying to find food some way or another, and also having a better chance of survival even though it could or could not happen.

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    4. The victims were driven to the point where they no longer behaved as the normally would. All people have a natural will to live and to resist death. They have a drive to fight for life regardless of others. Once you are facing those conditions you would revert back to your natural instincts.

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  4. Inhuman is about lacking human qualities like compassion and mercy while inhumane is without compassion for things that are suffering. I would say that the Nazis where both inhuman and inhumane they would stand by and watch the Jews starve to death and beat them mercilessly. They would kill women and children and pretty much any Jew that got in their way without a second thought. You would think they would have a little mercy on them but no as soon as a Jew stopped being useful they would take them straight to the crematory.

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    1. I agree, you would thing the Nazi's would have mercy, but they don't. They don't show any emotions.

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    2. Yea, the Nazis beat the Jews without caring or hesitating. Any sane human being would at least feel something as they were torturing the Jews but the Nazis didn't. They didn't feel anything.

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    3. Agreed, The Nazis have some screwed up minds.

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  5. As the book progresses, the Jews wind up almost inhumane by having very little mercy and compassion for their own people like in the beginning of the story. The concentration camps was about who lives and who dies. Most of the Jews lost hope and all faith and stopped fighting so they would wind up dying. Also while the Jews were in the concentration camps they watched so many of their own die from executions or death that as a result they started getting used to the idea of "Oh it's just the daily kill" and go on with the day.

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    1. I agree. The Germans started by being nice to the Jews. One soldier even gave a woman a box of chocolates. At the end of the story, they were shooting people who couldn't run fast enough. They were inhumane.

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    2. It's sad that the Jews had learned to accept death. That shouldn't be something we accept as people, seeing others starve and die, it's truly horrific.

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    3. I agree, the Jews don't even have compassion for others at the end even their own kind or friends and family, they only care about themselves.

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    4. I couldn't watch people die everyday and know that I was a part of it.

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  6. Describe the specific "human" qualities that the Nazis' victims lose over the course of their imprisonment. Give examples from the text.

    When wiseals group first came to the concentration camps, they were all caring for each other and made sure to keep each other safe. After a while or so they started to not care and fight over bread and worry about selection. fathers and their sons forgot they were related and fought over food bedings and out right hating each other. around the middle of the book they were forced to move to different places, which caused more people to fight each other for even a crumb of bread even to the point of killing each other. so overall they started out like normal humans and ended up like savages. fighting none stop for gold food clothes anything that helped them survive.

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    1. The Jews truly began to lose their minds towards the end of the book. You would think it would be crazy to fight over bread, but sadly that was one of the only ways for them to survive. What's even sicker is the Germans encouraged the fighting!

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    2. I agree, the Jews did go crazy during the end of the book and started to not even care how cruel they were being, they just wanted to only save themselves and didn't even think about family or friends and others were amused by seeing them fight.

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    3. You have a good point Hogan. The Jews did stop caring. It didn't matter who they were anymore. They were a number to the Germans. They had completely changed by the time the Army rescued them.

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    4. i agree the nazis did go crazy and didn't feel sorry for anything they did

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    5. I agree the nazis went crazy and did what they want to the jews.

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  7. Over the time of being under the Nazis’ control and in the concentration camps, the prisoner’s human qualities slowly faded away. The prisoner’s had lost their respect, mercy, and care for one another. You would think during these hard times of starvation people would try to help one another to survive. Well in chapter seven people became more like beast. Instead of trying to share bread and making sure to consider others, the prisoners thought only of themselves and their needs. The prisoners literally fought each another, and some even killed for a piece of bread. In chapter seven a father had tried to hide a piece of bread so he could return to his son and feed him as well, but his son actually fought him and the two ended up dying over the bread. Also in chapter seven, the Jews did not feel sorry for those who had died on the train or had any respect for them. Instead they were happy the people had died because they could take the clothing from the dead and have more room for themselves on the train. They had accepted death as the normal thing and never thought twice about if what they were doing was humane.

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    1. good response . i agree with it!

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    2. I agree that the qualities of the jews changed slowly and never changed back.

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    3. I like the way you specified your thinking.

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  8. Once the Nazis' began to take over there was no control that the Jews had over all of them. They completely controlled them and took everything they had from the Jews so really the Jews were completely helpless. The prisoner's started to not care about each other anymore and began killing each other. Prisoner's began to focus only on their needs and themselves instead of others as well as themselves and that is when all hell broke loose between the prisoners themselves. Fighting and killing each other over bread. The Jews began not to care for anyone who had been killed on the train and felt glad that they were deceased. This is because they could have room for them and steal all of the clothing off of the bodies and keep it for themselves. After all the death and torture they had been through and seen it became natural too them and would not think if it was the right thing to do. It was just a part of life to them since they had spent so much time on the Concentration Camps.

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    1. i agree, once they were in the concentration camps, they had absolutely no control over themselves.

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  9. Inhuman means lacking human qualities of compassion; cruelty and inhumane means without compassion for misery and suffering. Basically they are the same thing. I would characterize the Nazi's at both because they was commanding Hitler's orders and they would go to the point of beating to the extent of death and they didn't even show compassion or sadness or any emotion really for the deaths or killings they did they just dropped them and let them die right there or either threw them into the crematory.

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    1. I agree, The Nazi's were commanding Hitler's Orders. What the Nazi's are doing is a horrible thing.

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    2. agree, they were doing what Hitler told them to do. i couldnt imagine every doing that or witnessing any of the things the prisoners did.

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    3. I agree they are the same thing and the nazi are both of them because they never showed mercy or compassion.

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    4. I agree with you. I think the Nazis represent both definitions of the words inhuman and inhumane. They would torture, beat and kill the Jews.

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  10. Inhuman means lacking human qualities of compassion and mercy. Inhumane means without compassion for misery or suffering. I would describe the Nazi's as both inhuman and inhumane. They watch people die and suffer through many different ways. They threw babies in fires and watch them burn. The Nazi's didn't feel bad for what they did, they didn't have any emotions what so ever.

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  11. Over the course of the Jewish imprisonment the Jews began losing many human characteristics. They lost compassion. They no longer cared for other as they did themselves. Their number one priority was their self. They fought among themselves savagely over tiny scraps of food. They no longer cared for others.They lost the faith in god and no longer were able to believe anything. They had scene so much devastation and agony that they could no longer believe in the existence of a "Fair and just God." Towards the end of the novel they had come to the end of their leash and had lost even their will to live.

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    1. That's very true, although the Germans had no compassion for the Jews the Jews held no feelings for each other. They treated each other no better than the Germans treated them. Even family such as son and father did not feel for each other as they once had.

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    2. i agree but all of this was avoidable why it happened no one will ever know. what was going on in Hitler's head was hell on earth you will never understand this man.

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    3. I agree that they had lost all compassion for each other. But, I can also understand why. They were put through such miserable things and had to fight for their lives, no matter who got in their way.

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  12. inhumane is without compassion or misery or suffering. inhuman is lacking human qualities and mercy. the nazis just sit there and watch people die. they never feel bad or anything. i think the nazis are both inhumane and inhuman. They sat there and watched babies and children be burned.

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    1. I agree with you. The Nazis watched the people be killed and didn’t care. They acted like they didn’t have any emotions toward other people.

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  13. Inhuman means lacking human qualities of compassion and mercy. It also means being cruel and barbaric. Inhumane means without compassion for misery or suffering or more simply, cruel. They are virtually the same meaning. I would characterize the Nazis as both. I would characterize them as both because they had no mercy for the prisoners. They just did what they wanted or what they were told to do with them. They were very cruel, with how they punished them; Gases, steaming showers, etc.

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  14. Inhuman is not having human qualities, like not having human feelings. Inhumane is not feeling compassionate toward others and not caring about whether people are suffering. I would say the Nazis are both. They didn’t care if the Jews were suffering or in pain. They killed people and didn’t feel bad about it that’s inhumane.

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    1. i agree with you the nazi weren't evil they were monsters. the jews did not deserve this in the least bit!

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    2. I agree that the Nazi were both inhuman and inhumane. The stuff they put the Jews through was horrible and they didn't feel any sympathy or compassion.

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  15. Inhuman is not human and being inhumane is basically doing stuff that is considered terrible and awful to humans. I would characterize the Nazis as inhumane because they killed humans in the most inhumane way. They lose the quality of patience and hope throughout their imprisonment. In chapter 7 the prisoners fought to the death over bread.

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  16. Inhuman means to be lacking mercy and cruel. Inhumane means basically the same thing but has no compassion for suffering. I would characterize them as both because they never show any compassion to them at all all through the years that they had the camps. They lose many qualities but the major one is compassion for each others. I get this from the train when they killed other people just for a little piece of bread.

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  17. The definition of inhuman is:
    Lacking human qualities of compassion and mercy; cruel and barbaric.
    The definition of inhumane is:
    Without compassion for misery or suffering; cruel.
    I would characterize the Nazis as both because of the way that they treated the Jews. Even though the Jews hadn’t hurt anybody, the Nazis decided to kill them off in concentration camps. They tortured them for years and killed millions of them for no reason.

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  18. the jews loose there since of religion no longer do they prays god but wonder if he's even there. they were once plump and right now shriveled up and almost dead. some wish they were dead just for the fact that the pain of going hungry constantly is unbearable. no way to beat it thirst is constant. they were screwed over by the germans for raceism what we did to the blacks before civil rights was no better.

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  19. Inhuman means to be lacking human qualities of compassion and of mercy. Inhumane means that somebody is without compassion for misery or suffering. Both definitions are cruel and savage. The way I would characterize the Nazis is with both definitions. They were inhuman because of the way they treated the Jews and because of everything they put them through. They were throwing masses of people into crematories without ever thinking twice. Babies were being thrown into the air and used as target practice. No human qualities were present in the Nazis. They were inhumane because of they way they did not care about the damaging effects their actions were having. They were relentless and did cruel things that resulted in millions of Jews being killed, and they didn't even care.

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    1. I see exactly where you are coming from. Great job explaining your opinion very thoroughly.

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  20. There really isn’t a difference between being inhuman and inhumane. The only difference is that they are two different words. I would characterize the Nazis as both inhuman and inhumane. I’d characterize them as that because they are so cruel and cold hearted. I also would characterize them as both because they are unkind and inconsiderate.

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    1. I agree, the Nazis are both inhuman and inhumane

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    2. i agree, the Nazi party was just terrible

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  21. Inhuman is not human-like, or something that looks, sounds, or feels weird or not of this world. Inhumane is against one's morals, especially concerning right or wrong. I would say that the Nazis are both because theres not a really big difference. They kill people like crazy and that’s not human like at all. I think its terrible they’re like that.

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  22. Inhuman is lacking human qualities of compassion and mercy. Inhumane means without compassion for misery or suffering; cruel. The Nazis are both, they show no compassion for the suffering they are putting the Jewish people through. They kill and kill. They don't care about their lives

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  23. they really both mean the same.. Cruel and unusual, lack of compassion for others. no mercy.. im going to be honest i think the Nazi party was both. they really didnt show any remorse.

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